Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id UAA05407 (8.6.9/5.3[ref pg@gmsl.co.uk] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk); Sat, 22 Dec 2001 20:58:36 GMT Message-ID: <002501c18b2b$98343f20$db9ebed4@default> From: "Kenneth Van Oost" <Kenneth.Van.Oost@village.uunet.be> To: "memetics" <memetics@mmu.ac.uk> Subject: Fw: Religious Thought and Lamarckism Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 21:57:59 +0100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Wade T. Smith <wade_smith@harvard.edu>
>
> > Designing culture is what is so archly called memetic engineering, but
> > the manipulation of a few or a thousand people is not a full force
social
> > experiment. Religions are. And of course, anything that is designed and
> > changed within its life span is a lamarckian process.
>
> Hi Wade,
>
> But is that than not present in any political perspective and in any
social
> debate !?
> Political ideologies ( and the democratic one too) are manipulating, with
> intent or not, more than a thousand towards (in)tolerance/ disobedience/
> righteousness/ honesty/ equality/ solidarity/...
> Ideology is believing and all what is ' designed ' to support such is a
> Lamarckian process.
> The 5- year planning of the economy in the former USSR, were such
> Lamarckian processes. Designed ( chemical) new drugs to fight disease
> is another way.
>
> In Lamarckian terms, when there is a " need " it involves Lamarckian
> processing. The ' need ' to improve yourself, the strategies by which
> the economy is working, the need for a better product so that you can
> outline the competition,... are all Lamarckian- based processes.
> We tend to see this as the Darwinian paradigm_ natural selection can do
> the same trick
> Darwins theory may indeed have won the race, but Darwin himself
> never give up the idea of use- inheritance.
> Even Dawkins mentions this !
>
> Lamarck 's theory is misrepresented and misinterpreted.
>
> Regards,
>
> Kenneth
>
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