Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id EAA20543 (8.6.9/5.3[ref pg@gmsl.co.uk] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk); Thu, 29 Nov 2001 04:54:05 GMT Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 20:49:08 -0800 Message-Id: <200111290449.fAT4n8b23217@mail1.bigmailbox.com> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary X-Mailer: MIME-tools 4.104 (Entity 4.116) X-Originating-Ip: [216.76.250.64] From: "Joe Dees" <joedees@addall.com> To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk Subject: RE: Verbal memeticism Sender: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk('binary' encoding is not supported, stored as-is)
> "Lawrence DeBivort" <debivort@umd5.umd.edu> <memetics@mmu.ac.uk> RE: Verbal memeticismDate: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 15:56:18 -0500
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>I think this is too broad a defintion of 'memetic.' Verbalizations, in my
>view, are only memetic if they have self-dissemination and self-protection
>characteristics. Techncology, disseminated and adopted can, yes, have
>memetic properties, as can symbols/icons/logos, works of art, etc.
>
>Lawrence
>
What is memetic in technology is not the physical material out of which technological artifacts are comprised (although physical properties plays a great deal of constraint in this 'matter';~), but the meaningful (as functions have meaning - designed for a particular task or tasks) configuration into which the materials have been fabricated, and which can be apprehended, understood and replicated by an observer, just as it is not the sound waves in speech themselves which are meaningful (carrier), but the meaningful configurations in which they are shaped (coded content), and not the pencil lead (rather than, say, ink) that memetically matters, but the glyphs into which they are written.
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>> Not only is everything verbal memetic, but everything
>> technological possesses a memetic component, as well.
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