Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id BAA20070 (8.6.9/5.3[ref pg@gmsl.co.uk] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk); Thu, 29 Nov 2001 01:31:49 GMT Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 17:26:46 -0800 Message-Id: <200111290126.fAT1Qk722594@mail8.bigmailbox.com> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary X-Mailer: MIME-tools 4.104 (Entity 4.116) X-Originating-Ip: [216.76.248.36] From: "Joe Dees" <joedees@addall.com> To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk Subject: Re: circular logic Sender: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk('binary' encoding is not supported, stored as-is)
> Re: circular logicDate: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 20:06:14 -0500
> "Wade T.Smith" <wade_smith@harvard.edu> "Memetics Discussion List" <memetics@mmu.ac.uk>Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
>
>Hi Joe Dees -
>
>>This process [imitation of actions- let me know if I mis-stated that] has
>>essential things to do with both evolution generally (as
>>a particular instantiation of some evolutionary principles)
>
>I really do fail to see how evolution requires imitation to produce, say,
>the walking stick insect. (Or anything else, but I wanted an example that
>some people would actually say imitates something else.)
>
>That mimicry was selected for, not imitated.
>
Imiataion is one of the particular ways in which an evolution with intentional elements, such as memetic evolution, replicates.
>
>>the human mind, which is the internal environment of memes, is, unlike our
>>ecosphere within which genes must compete, an intentional one.
>
>The human mind is just another part of this ecosphere- an artefact of the
>developed and evolved brain. That it has intention is probable but
>problematic, but it must also compete.
>
Not only does it have intention, but that intention plays a part in selection the further memetic selection with which it engages its ideosphere.
>
>- Wade
>
>
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