Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id BAA19971 (8.6.9/5.3[ref pg@gmsl.co.uk] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk); Thu, 29 Nov 2001 01:11:14 GMT Subject: Re: circular logic Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 20:06:14 -0500 x-sender: wsmith1@camail2.harvard.edu x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, Claritas Est Veritas From: "Wade T.Smith" <wade_smith@harvard.edu> To: "Memetics Discussion List" <memetics@mmu.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-ID: <20011129010613.AAA3030@camailp.harvard.edu@[205.240.180.33]> Sender: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
Hi Joe Dees -
>This process [imitation of actions- let me know if I mis-stated that] has
>essential things to do with both evolution generally (as
>a particular instantiation of some evolutionary principles)
I really do fail to see how evolution requires imitation to produce, say,
the walking stick insect. (Or anything else, but I wanted an example that
some people would actually say imitates something else.)
That mimicry was selected for, not imitated.
>the human mind, which is the internal environment of memes, is, unlike our
>ecosphere within which genes must compete, an intentional one.
The human mind is just another part of this ecosphere- an artefact of the
developed and evolved brain. That it has intention is probable but
problematic, but it must also compete.
- Wade
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