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From: Wade T.Smith <wade_smith@harvard.edu>
To: Memetics Discussion List <memetics@mmu.ac.uk>
> Coming down on the side of artifact memes (and artifact memes only),
> don't seem to me to be heretical at all- in fact, I'm pretty sure it's
> one of only three choices that are available- either memes are inside, or
> outside, or some combination of the two. After wrestling with various
> explanations of all three, and then wrestling with the way they interact
> with other models of life, the universe, and everything, I cut out the
> crap with Occam's razor, and I was left with choice number one- memes are
> outside and artifactual, period. What's inside is something else. Human
> evolution requires sexual reproduction, and the only way memetic
> evolution could happen would require a sexual component as well.
>
> And, so far, sex is physical. And so far, memes are physical. Interior
> sex is, well, impossible. Lust as much as you want in your heart, but, it
> won't make a child.
Hi Wade,
Interesting point this !
Memetical sex !? 2 lines of thought could be attracted to eachother due
to differences in their individual isomorphism, I don 't know !
But, anyway, ' sex ' is possible, 2 lines of thought would produce
offspring
in the sense they give birth to a new line of thought, to a new idea, a new
skill, new experience, a new form of communication.
But, it is a kind of orgy in our head, and memes or neural connections are
not monogamous, they do it with any other neural trace.
And IMO, sex has not to be physical !
Remerber nuns have some spiritual connection with god. Some of them
have even a sexual relationship with their lord, even orgasms.
But most of the time the relationship stays non- physical.
Believing is having sex... as I remerber the saying rightly.
Regards,
Kenneth
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