Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id DAA14494 (8.6.9/5.3[ref pg@gmsl.co.uk] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk); Tue, 27 Nov 2001 03:51:17 GMT Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2001 19:46:14 -0800 Message-Id: <200111270346.fAR3kE114698@mail7.bigmailbox.com> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary X-Mailer: MIME-tools 4.104 (Entity 4.116) X-Originating-Ip: [216.76.251.115] From: "Joe Dees" <joedees@addall.com> To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk Subject: Re: A Question for Wade Sender: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk('binary' encoding is not supported, stored as-is)
>Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2001 15:24:46 -0500
> Re: A Question for Wade Wade Smith <wade_smith@harvard.edu> memetics@mmu.ac.ukReply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
>
>> Yes, but a sculpture only has to look aesthetically pleasing;
>
>Well, for sure and begorrah, I don't agree with that.
>
>Lots of things have to look aesthetically (oh, boy, define that
>term) pleasing. Wallpaper. Gardens. Cindy Crawford.
>
>A sculpture (art in general) not only has to have an aesthetic
>function (and whether pleasingness is part of that is a way open
>question), it has to have the utility of engaging the observer's
>emotions, although, yeah, that sort of is aesthetic function at
>basis.
>
>Initially, I came into memetics from the back door of aesthetics
>(the only philosophical stance I appreciate), and can still see
>immense connections.
>
>At heart also, in my stubborness with sticking with physical
>memes, is a stubborness inherent in aesthetics- that there
>actually has to be something to look at.
>
To paraphrase, beauty is internal to the mind of the beholder. utility, however, is an empirical, external thing.
>
>- Wade
>
>
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