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> >That we usually don't do this is a result of our culture and not of
> >differences between species or environments.
>
> I fail to see how being in a different culture is not being in a
> different environment.
>
> Perhaps you might explain how I can be in two places at once.
Well i thought you were thinking about natural environment. But when you
include cultural environment then you also include memetics because memetics
deal with the transmission of cultural information. Your original statement was
that behavior has nothing to do with memetics. I gave you an example to
disprove it.
I don't see your problem anyway. Consider a film as an cultural artefact. In
this film some behavior is shown which can be copied, it's a meme, a meme
found in an cultural artefact. Then - what difference does it make to copy that
behavior from a film or a from an actual living person in front of me. In
the film there is a physical representation of the form. The behavior is
encoded in it. The same way the behavior is encoded in the movement of the body of
a actually living person in front of me. So that's the whole difference.
You'd would have to agree with me when say that memes require a physical
representation which i totally agree to. You just fail to see that when we observe a
behavior we actually observe a physical representation to. The movement of
atoms of a persons body.
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