Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id CAA11832 (8.6.9/5.3[ref pg@gmsl.co.uk] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk); Mon, 26 Nov 2001 02:31:18 GMT Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2001 18:26:10 -0800 Message-Id: <200111260226.fAQ2QAW05829@mail3.bigmailbox.com> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary X-Mailer: MIME-tools 4.104 (Entity 4.116) X-Originating-Ip: [216.76.255.98] From: "Joe Dees" <joedees@addall.com> To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk Subject: Re: A Question for Wade Sender: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk('binary' encoding is not supported, stored as-is)
> Re: A Question for WadeDate: Sun, 25 Nov 2001 20:13:09 -0500
> "Wade T.Smith" <wade_smith@harvard.edu> "Memetics Discussion List" <memetics@mmu.ac.uk>Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
>
>Hi Joe Dees -
>
>>Science is less memetic than art, for it is dependent upon empirical
>>properties for its functioning; it must possess that which art may do
>>without - utility.
>
>There is a utility to art that is paramount- it must be understood on
>some level. That there are empirical properties to art is obviously
>evident. That there are processes that must be followed, since all
>plastic arts involve the manipulation of physical materials, and
>literature and music the manipulation of words and sounds, is also
>evident, as Aristotle remarked, so long ago.
>
>To say that art can do without utility is, well, biased, if not straight
>up wrong.
>
>Science and art are joined at the hip.
>
Yes, but a sculpture only has to look aesthetically pleasing; a machine (Rube Goldberg sometimes excepted, and his machines were works of art) has to perform a specific function (and may or may not look kewl in the bargain).
>
>- Wade
>
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