Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id BAA11493 (8.6.9/5.3[ref pg@gmsl.co.uk] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk); Mon, 26 Nov 2001 01:04:14 GMT Subject: Re: A Question for Wade Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2001 19:59:15 -0500 x-sender: wsmith1@camail2.harvard.edu x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, Claritas Est Veritas From: "Wade T.Smith" <wade_smith@harvard.edu> To: "Memetics Discussion List" <memetics@mmu.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-ID: <20011126005913.AAA4079@camailp.harvard.edu@[205.240.180.14]> Sender: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
Hi Joe Dees -
>since a meme may be represented in many different ways in any particular
>medium, and may be represented in many different media, but the connection
>between the patterns, as differing representamens, and the idea or
>concept, as referent.
Form being function, and the medium being the message, I fail to see how
a meme can be represented in many different ways in many media. Reductio
to the absurd, that sort of makes everything the same as everything else,
removing uniqueness.
Maybe this is more communications theory (but, ain't I already come down
on the side of throwing out anything besides the actual physical artifact
itself as being a meme- yup, I did...), but, please, bring out this meme
that may be represented (and what does it mean to represent a meme any
bloody way?!) in any media.
I really don't think I've thrown out the baby with the bathwater by
declaring as erroneous any meme theory that uses meme in any other way
than as actual physical artifact- for while I agree the bathwater was
terrifically filthy, the baby itself was in the bassinet.
- Wade
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