Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id EAA09617 (8.6.9/5.3[ref pg@gmsl.co.uk] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk); Sun, 25 Nov 2001 04:01:30 GMT X-Originating-IP: [209.240.222.132] From: "Scott Chase" <ecphoric@hotmail.com> To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk Subject: Re: Definition, Please Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2001 22:56:29 -0500 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: <F50N7RJxTZBuMXZuAf20001deee@hotmail.com> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 25 Nov 2001 03:56:29.0343 (UTC) FILETIME=[299DAAF0:01C17565] Sender: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
>From: "Philip A.E. Jonkers" <phae@uclink.berkeley.edu>
>Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
>To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
>Subject: Re: Definition, Please
>Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 10:50:48 -0800
>
>On Friday 23 November 2001 12:06 am, you wrote:
> > From: <joedees@bellsouth.net>
> >
> > >Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
> > >To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
> > >Subject: Definition, Please
> > >Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 14:53:12 -0600
> > >
> > >What is the definition of "twee"?
>
>I don't know what purpose it serves but according to mr. Cambridge
>right here it is "artificially attractive or too perfect". Does that fit
>in?
>I also know that `twee' is the Dutch word for 2, but that won't help
>probably.
>
> > Isn't that one of them things with bwanches which Bugs Bunny hides
>behind
> > when Elmer Fudd is hunting wabbits?
> >
> > Is "What's up Doc?" memetic?
>
>I don't know what inspired you to suggest that but technically speaking,
>yes.
>Go ask a kid, any kid (provided they can speak a little at least),
>if he or she knows that phrase. A 99 out of 100 chance he/she knows it.
>And if not, after you have uttered the slogan in front of that kid,
>it will stick to his little brain like flies on ...
>In fact, too make it a little more bolder, anything verbal is memetic
>by definition (and I mean anything), it's only the question how
>successful the slogan is or will be.
>
>
Some of us are better at resisting assimilation by the memetic Borg cube
than others :-)
At best, *maybe* a slogan such as "What's up Doc?" qualifies at it rides
atop a verbal system, but assimilating the entirety of the verbal system or
language itself as memetic...what would the linguists think of this
assimilation (and is there going to be accomodation?)? Can they outrun the
cube before it's too late?
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