Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id KAA04387 (8.6.9/5.3[ref pg@gmsl.co.uk] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk); Thu, 22 Nov 2001 10:48:49 GMT Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 10:39:44 +0000 To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk Subject: Re: Study shows brain can learn without really trying Message-ID: <20011122103944.C6015@ii01.org> References: <20011121183216.B3790@ii01.org> <E267FFDD-DEB8-11D5-9C2B-003065A0F24C@harvard.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <E267FFDD-DEB8-11D5-9C2B-003065A0F24C@harvard.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23i From: Robin Faichney <robin@ii01.org> Sender: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
On Wed, Nov 21, 2001 at 02:49:33PM -0500, Wade Smith wrote:
> >Behaviour is generated by the interaction between
> >environment and mind/brain. But I don't see anything there to suggest
> >that memes should be considered beliefs/ideas. How do these get from
> >one brain/mind to another?
>
> And also, what says anything has to be there to get from one
> place to another, anywho? _If_ behavior is something generated
> by the interaction between environment and mind, then, in the
> same environment populated with the same species, _then_ same
> behaviors.... Nothing else needed to fit- no cracks.
It's just your misconception that links memes with "cracks". All that's
required to validate the most basic memetic model is imitation. You don't
think people ever imitate each other? If they do, then what's the word
for the item of information that necessarily starts at one brain/mind
and ends up at the other?
-- Robin Faichney "It is tempting to suppose that some concept of information could serve eventually to unify mind, matter, and meaning in a single theory," say Daniel Dennett and John Haugeland. The theory is here: http://www.ii01.org/=============================================================== This was distributed via the memetics list associated with the Journal of Memetics - Evolutionary Models of Information Transmission For information about the journal and the list (e.g. unsubscribing) see: http://www.cpm.mmu.ac.uk/jom-emit
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