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On Tue, Nov 20, 2001 at 01:50:04PM -0500, Wade Smith wrote:
> >Tell me, Ted, where did you get the idea that memes are ideas?
> >As opposed,
> >say, to patterns of behaviour?
>
> I dare say one needs to preface all correspondence to this list
> with one's personal definition of 'meme'.
:-)
> Mine seems to reside somewhere within the mechanisms that allow
> humans the capacity to create- a function of mind connecting
> curiosity and observation and memory- but I'm not sure which
> came first, memes or culture.
That's interesting. It seems to have nothing in common with what people
like Dawkins and Dennett and Blackmore mean by the word. Can you explain
why you want to use "meme" that way?
> I don't, personally, want to just make them patterns of
> behavior, mostly because we can see that in the amoeba. And,
> yes, I'm sapiens-centric enough to not want more connection than
> required to an amoeba....
Do amoeba imitate each other? I'd have thought genetics enough to
explain the behaviour of any such simple organism.
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