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----- Original Message -----
From: Kenneth Van Oost <Kenneth.Van.Oost@village.uunet.be>
To: <memetics@mmu.ac.uk>
Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2001 9:41 PM
Subject: Re: Debunking pseudoscience: Why horoscopes really work
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Dace <edace@earthlink.net>
> To: <memetics@mmu.ac.uk>
> Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 9:38 PM
> Subject: Re: Debunking pseudoscience: Why horoscopes really work
>
> Hi Philip, Dace,
> I did not quite follow the discussion between you two, but this sprung
out,
>
> > And what is it, precisely, that's being acknowledged and talked to?
Your
> > discussion is predicated on the actuality of some kind of entity that
> > pre-exists the development of the self-plex (ego).
>
> From my conception of memetics that is not all a strange statement.
> Why can 't the ego, the self- plex not be predicated by some elements,
> entities !?
> In my point of view, memes will do the trick nicely, in the understanding
> of course that memetic information is than already present, before the
> development of the self- plex.
> A kind of a memetic isomorphism, containing fundamental building blocks
> of one character ( memes) can be present long before the development
> of the self- plex itself.
> It rests to be seen how and to what extend that information is used in
> order to built one's self- plex.
>
> IMO, we can 't exclude the possibility for a kind of entity, whatever
> that might turn out to be. Only memetical speaking of course.
>
> Regards,
>
> Kenneth
>
>
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