Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id NAA28491 (8.6.9/5.3[ref pg@gmsl.co.uk] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk); Mon, 19 Nov 2001 13:50:56 GMT Message-ID: <007501c17001$7bf33860$30a2bed4@default> From: "Kenneth Van Oost" <Kenneth.Van.Oost@village.uunet.be> To: "memetics" <memetics@mmu.ac.uk> Subject: Fw: Debunking pseudoscience: Why horoscopes really work Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 08:19:08 +0100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
----- Original Message -----
From: Kenneth Van Oost <Kenneth.Van.Oost@village.uunet.be>
To: memetics <memetics@mmu.ac.uk>
Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2001 12:06 AM
Subject: Fw: Debunking pseudoscience: Why horoscopes really work
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Kenneth Van Oost <Kenneth.Van.Oost@village.uunet.be>
> To: <memetics@mmu.ac.uk>
> Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2001 9:41 PM
> Subject: Re: Debunking pseudoscience: Why horoscopes really work
>
>
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Dace <edace@earthlink.net>
> > To: <memetics@mmu.ac.uk>
> > Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 9:38 PM
> > Subject: Re: Debunking pseudoscience: Why horoscopes really work
> >
> > Hi Philip, Dace,
> > I did not quite follow the discussion between you two, but this sprung
> out,
> >
> > > And what is it, precisely, that's being acknowledged and talked to?
> Your
> > > discussion is predicated on the actuality of some kind of entity that
> > > pre-exists the development of the self-plex (ego).
> >
> > From my conception of memetics that is not all a strange statement.
> > Why can 't the ego, the self- plex not be predicated by some elements,
> > entities !?
> > In my point of view, memes will do the trick nicely, in the
understanding
> > of course that memetic information is than already present, before the
> > development of the self- plex.
> > A kind of a memetic isomorphism, containing fundamental building blocks
> > of one character ( memes) can be present long before the development
> > of the self- plex itself.
> > It rests to be seen how and to what extend that information is used in
> > order to built one's self- plex.
> >
> > IMO, we can 't exclude the possibility for a kind of entity, whatever
> > that might turn out to be. Only memetical speaking of course.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Kenneth
> >
> >
>
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