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> Complexity in no way contradicts determinism. Even fractals are made from
> simple, deterministic equations. What tips over the apple cart is
> novelty.
>
> As Bergson argued a century ago, the meaning of time is that the universe
> is NOT determined. It hasn't all happened yet. To assert determinism
> is to
> deny time. Indeed, that's exactly what physics does, not just since
> Einstein,
> but all the way to back to Descartes. Positivistic science has always
> reduced existence to a graph, with time as its fourth variable.
And the problem is..? Why can't time just be the long axis of the
'prism' of the other three dimensions (*that* was clear). I don't
understand why there is this need to cling to a universe with novelty.
The detective book already has an ending when you start reading it, but
the fact that the ending isn't made up on the spot as you turn the
last page doesn't spoil it.
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