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From: salice <salice@gmx.net>
To: <memetics@mmu.ac.uk>
> > Where culture comes from may not, also,
> > have changed at all in that time.
>
> Is it really that important where it came from? I'm more interested
> in what evolutionary purpose it has. I mean every other human feature
> is explained as to have a function which lets the individual survive
> and spread its dna in the end, so why is culture seen different from
> that? Is there any scientific proof that it has or has no
> evolutionary purpose?
Hi Salice,
Sorry for not yet sending the article, my problems seems not yet finished...
But, I hope this gets throught somehow,...
IMO culture does not have any purpose than to be the approiate vehicle
to propagate its specific memes.
The only purpose I see of any culture is to spread " cultural " memes, that
are ideas, thoughts, values, moralistic considerations, ethics and
aesthetics.
You may say, each cultural block, whatever that might be, " lives " its
own life along its own dilated lineages.
And in that way, cultures will, can and must differ, because any possible
environmental difference between 2 or more changes the outcome of any
meme....
Regards,
Kenneth
( I am, because we are) hoping my e- mail works.....
> > Are supermodels the ultimate in feminine aesthetic at all?
>
> There's no ultimate in aesthetics. Aesthetics differ between
> cultures. Fat men are regarded to be sexy in Japan for instance,
> while in our culture there are a lot of fat people who just get more
> and more fat BECAUSE it's culturally considered to be unaesthetic
> while people in Japan don't develop these kind of eating disorders or
> eating addictions.
>
> > Cultural
> > appreciation of women certainly fluctuates, but I'm not at all sure
> > supermodels are dropping progeny left and right.
>
> They sure have influence on people. Why do people do diets these
> days and would they have done it in Rubens times?
>
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