Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id JAA03972 (8.6.9/5.3[ref pg@gmsl.co.uk] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from fmb-bounces@mmu.ac.uk); Sat, 6 Oct 2001 09:49:39 +0100 Date: Sat, 6 Oct 2001 09:32:10 +0100 To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk Subject: Re: Genes are Memes Message-ID: <20011006093210.A967@ii01.org> References: <E15peHu-0004T3-00@dryctnath.mmu.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.15i In-Reply-To: <E15peHu-0004T3-00@dryctnath.mmu.ac.uk>; from salice@gmx.net on Sat, Oct 06, 2001 at 01:19:32AM +0000 From: Robin Faichney <robin@ii01.org> Sender: fmb-bounces@mmu.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
On Sat, Oct 06, 2001 at 01:19:32AM +0000, salice wrote:
>
> Thesis: Genes are Memes
>
> Example:
> A research team analyses the dna of a plant. They find genes, which
> after changing make the plant become more resistant to insects.
> After a number of plants have grown on a field another research team
> steals some plants from this field. This team starts to analyze the
> changed dna and finds the changed genes in there. They might decide
> to copy this meme. With the help of the plant which serves as a
> host for the meme which the first research team put into its dna, a
> meme is transmitted from research team to research team, from brain
> to brain.
Somebody -- unfortunately I don't recall who -- suggested this years ago.
A simpler scenario is where a gene is described in a textbook, and then
later synthesised from that description.
> Genes are memes, and will become even more so as humans will change
> it more and more. The big question is still, what created the
> original memes in dna, that scientists now change?
There's no such meme until the gene is discovered and described.
Otherwise, we'd have to ask "who" created all the memes that are
"discovered" by physicists etc. In fact, memes are in behaviour,
books and brains, but not (otherwise) in nature.
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