Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id OAA27689 (8.6.9/5.3[ref pg@gmsl.co.uk] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from fmb-bounces@mmu.ac.uk); Wed, 3 Oct 2001 14:50:42 +0100 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20011003093946.00a6d3a0@localhost> X-Sender: jake.maier/postoffice.worldnet.att.net@localhost X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2001 09:45:23 -0400 To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk From: Joachim Maier <jake.maier@worldnet.att.net> Subject: RE: state of memes In-Reply-To: <2D1C159B783DD211808A006008062D3102A6D05C@inchna.stir.ac.uk > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: fmb-bounces@mmu.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
Thanks Vincent for the welcome.
Unfortunately now that I am looking forward to the discussion I very
suddenly have to leave for a job till the end of the month. I'm a forester
and need to cruise a large track of land so I won't come out of the wood
in northern New Hampshire till the end of the month. So if you don't hear
anymore from me, it's not because I'm not interested :)
Schwaeble
At 12:50 PM 10/3/2001 +0100, you wrote:
>Hi Joachim,
>
>Welcome to the list.
>
>On TV in the UK last night was the first in a three part documentary about
>the serial killers Fred and Rosemary West, that used taped recordings of
>police interviews with Fred West. Anyway, on hearing this man's very flat
>and largely unemotional description of cutting the head off the body of one
>of his daughters (who he'd raped, tortured and murdered) so she'd fit in the
>hole in the back garden he'd dug, I got a sense of what I believe has been
>referred to as the banality of evil.
>
>You're quite that the demons of our modern world, be they serial killers,
>members of genocidal regimes, or terrorists, are usually banal, everyday
>people outside of the acts they commit, able to hold down jobs, have
>families, friends etc. etc.
>
>Memes are a gloriously interesting starting point for many our list
>discussions, and honestly we do try to stick to memetics at least some of
>the time. The trouble with a multi-discipinary subject is that there's lots
>of ground to make up between all the different contributing disciplines, and
>that does lead us off topic on occasion.
>
>Vincent
>
> > ----------
> > From: Joachim Maier
> > Reply To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 3, 2001 10:00 am
> > To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
> > Subject: Re: state of memes
> >
> >
> > >Care to explain who HAMAS and HizbAllah are? Nice people one would invite
> >
> > >over for tea?
> >
> > Very likely they are. The top Nazis apparently were very charming company.
> >
> > I just talked to a former foreign service employee who told me that a top
> > guy responsible for the Tutsi massacre in Rwanda was at her house for
> > dinner shortly before the massacre began. She wondered out loud how he
> > could have been so at ease plotting the slaughter of hundreds of thousands
> >
> > of people.
> >
> > Schwaeble
> > PS
> > I'm new to this list, and new to the idea of memes. This is very
> > interesting stuff :)
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