Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id RAA17963 (8.6.9/5.3[ref pg@gmsl.co.uk] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from fmb-bounces@mmu.ac.uk); Fri, 28 Sep 2001 17:41:17 +0100 From: "salice" <salice@gmx.net> To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 18:36:07 +0000 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: RE: Thesis: Memes are DNA-Slaves In-reply-to: <2D1C159B783DD211808A006008062D3102A6D043@inchna.stir.ac.uk> Message-Id: <E15n0eH-0004w3-00@dryctnath.mmu.ac.uk> Sender: fmb-bounces@mmu.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
> No need for the people to survive as long as the doctrine does, e.g.
> suicidal cults, religious/political martyrs etc. etc. Some memes appear to
> drive people to non-adaptive behaviours like celibacy and suicide.
martyrs help a culture to survive (in best case). so it helps it's
people to survive aswell. if a kamikaze destroyed an us army ship he
might have been acting non-adaptive acording to his genes but he
might had saved 1000s of others, which might have been not that
different to him.
when you look at these kind of behaviours you have to be aware of
the fact that a lot of dna is similar among people. so if
someone commits suicide but helps with this action 100s of others to
survive, who share similar genes with him, it's quite clever.
there are a lot of symptoms which can't be directly explained with
normal evolutionary theory. like impotence for instance. but when you
look on the overall scale of effect certain actions make sense.
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