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Wade, I usually understand your point even if I disagree, but I'm confused
by your calling a belief a behavior. Isn't a belief something you believe
and a behavior something you do?
Richard
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Wade T.Smith
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Subject: Re: Dawkins was right all along
Hi Bill Spight -
>Please show how learning is, by definition, necessary for belief, using
>the dictionary definition.
A belief is "Something believed or accepted as true, especially a
particular tenet or a body of tenets accepted by a group of persons."
I fail to see how believing tenets accepted by a group of persons is not
a learned behavior.
But, really, semantics and definitions aside, religion _is_ a learned
behavior. Period. It is not innate. Acting as the agent of a religion is
a learned behavior. Period. It is not innate. Accepting rewards in an
afterlife is a belief, and beliefs are tenets held _without evidence_.
Learned tenets.
Explain how one gets tales of an afterlife without being taught same.
- Wade
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