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Missing from Dawkins's article is any use of the word "meme" or any mention 
of evolutionary cultural replicator theory. His article therefore does not 
give a sense of the foresight or explanatory power offered by evolutionary 
cultural replicator theory.
However, in an earlier piece that pre-dated the September 11 attack by over a 
year, I discussed religiously driven mass violence at a workshop on cultural 
evolution. The following excerpt suggests that one can achieve some degree of 
foresight by using evolutionary cultural replicator theory, which is 
presumably better than explaining events in hindsight. The reference to the 
"World Trade Center bombing" concerns the 1993 attack. 
EXCERPT FROM:
From "Human Destiny and the Evolutionary Epidemiology of Ideas"
a talk presented at the Foundation for the Future Workshop on Cultural 
Evolution, May 18-19, 2000, Bellevue, Washington. 
" ... In South Asia, the most intense versions of Islamic and Hindu faith 
lead to more children for adherents. For Islam, it also leads to more 
evangelical activity, giving a high fertility-high evangelism movement 
similar to early Christianity. The evolutionary maintenance and growth of 
religious fervor now contribute to the risk of nuclear war in India and 
Pakistan. Belief in special afterlife treatment for martyrs heightens the 
risk. If such a war happens, it could have devastating consequences not just 
in the region, but also for financial markets and the world economy as 
nations react by trying to create terrorist-proof boarders and curtailing 
civil liberties. The World Trade Center bombing illustrates very clearly that 
there are groups who would use a nuclear weapon on a large city if given a 
chance. ... "
--Aaron Lynch
http://www.thoughtcontagion.com
In a message dated 9/15/2001 7:42:15 PM Central Daylight Time, 
tazzie@bolian.upnaway.com writes:
> Subj:  Dawkins View
>  Date:    9/15/2001 7:42:15 PM Central Daylight Time
>  From:    tazzie@bolian.upnaway.com (Anne.)
>  Sender:  fmb-bounces@mmu.ac.uk
>  Reply-to:    memetics@mmu.ac.uk
>  To:  memetics@mmu.ac.uk
>  
>  Here is the link to the Dawkins piece!
>  
>  http://www.guardian.co.uk/wtccrash/story/0,1300,552388,00.html
>  
>  Anne.
>  
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