Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id HAA01727 (8.6.9/5.3[ref pg@gmsl.co.uk] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from fmb-bounces@mmu.ac.uk); Tue, 4 Sep 2001 07:04:50 +0100 Message-ID: <000b01c13506$7d02dca0$9ad9b3d1@teddace> From: "Dace" <edace@earthlink.net> To: <memetics@mmu.ac.uk> References: <NEBBKOADILIOKGDJLPMAIEOGCFAA.debivort@umd5.umd.edu> Subject: Re: Dawkins etc Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2001 22:57:22 -0700 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: fmb-bounces@mmu.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
How do particles "resonate" with similarly charged particles? For that
matter, how do large bodies of mass attract other large bodies of mass?
They do it *naturally,* of course. It's in their nature.
But the point you seem to be getting at is that the distance involved in MR
is temporal rather than spatial. Moons don't orbit planets where they
existed in the past. Radios don't resonate with dead transmitters. That's
what's "spooky" about MR, not action-at-a-distance by itself. The
implication of MR, though Sheldrake himself has never admitted to this, is
that time must be treated as an absolute and not merely in terms of its
relation to space. The concept of "now" has no place in the equations of
physics. Time could be moving backwards or forwards or not at all as far as
physics is concerned. For "now" to be real, it must be absolute, which
means every moment that ever was now remains now. Time consists of novelty
and memory. Life is the exploitation of the friction where they grind
together.
That time is absolute (metaphysical) doesn't make it supernatural. What it
means is that nature has its own intrinsic reality and is not, as Newton and
Einstein had it, the deterministic expression of a transcendent reality,
a.k.a. "God." Ultimately, the choice is between time and eternity, morphics
and mathematics.
> I'm getting more and more lost, here.
>
> Ted, _how_ do organisms 'resonate' with previous similar forms?
>
> Thanks, - Lawrence
>
> >
> > There are no independently existing lines of MR. It's not like genes,
> > which are things in themselves. MR is simply the resonance of
> > organisms or naturally recurring forms with previous similar forms.
> > It's not as if there are lines of gravity which, when crossed, give rise
> > to new planets.
> >
> > Ted
>
>
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