RE: Cichlids & Memes

From: Vincent Campbell (v.p.campbell@stir.ac.uk)
Date: Fri Aug 31 2001 - 10:42:46 BST

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From: Vincent Campbell <v.p.campbell@stir.ac.uk>
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Subject: RE: Cichlids & Memes
Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 10:42:46 +0100
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    Hi Bill,

    I'd agree here. An indicator of steps from non-cultural to cultural must
    include proto-cultural behaviours like you say.

    Vincent

    > ----------
    > From: Bill Spight
    > Reply To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
    > Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 4:47 pm
    > To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
    > Subject: Re: Cichlids & Memes
    >
    > Dear Vincent,
    >
    > > Of course whether fish really have culture or memes is, I suspect, a
    > matter
    > > of some contention.
    > >
    >
    > Hmmm. I wonder if it is possible to have memes without culture.
    >
    > I know, I know, memes are defined as building blocks of culture, so the
    > notion of a meme without culture is meaningless. Or is it?
    >
    > Isn't it possible to have patterns of behavior that are reproduced via
    > imitation, are varied and subject to selection, without their combining
    > in a superstructure that we call culture? Why not? The imitation of mate
    > preferences in guppies seems a good candidate for such.
    >
    > Best,
    >
    > Bill
    >
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