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Kenneth Van Oost wrote:
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Chris Taylor <Christopher.Taylor@man.ac.uk>
> : Re: Morphic fields
> If an organism is at a certain size scale, it must do certain things because
> of the way the world is. These, as you say, are constants, as much a
> property of the universe as a vortex round a plughole, therefore outside the
> realms of which you speak. If he's 'branched out' into MR, which I'm not
> sure that he has, then that's a pity.
>
> Hi Chris,
>
> This may sound as a daft question, but are you talking about Goodwin
> here or about people in general !?
First bit, general; last bit, Goodwin only.
> If it would be the last, would that than mean, in a sense, that we humans
> have no free will due that we must do certain things because of the way
> the world is !?
> Morphic realm or not, if structures whatever they may be are constants
> that would undermine our understanding of free will, not !?
Not in the sense that you mean - there are constant properties of the
universe (effectively constant if you like). Structure of various
crystals, boiling points of liquids, diffusion constants etc. These do
not interfere with our (*apparent*) free will, which is operating at
several levels above this. The physical constraints on computer design
are only loosely linked to the capabilities of computers, if you see
what I mean. I'd argue noone has truly free will anyway, but we already
did that one a few months ago...
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