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Philip:
> > I already knew that animals can be tempted into addictive behavior
> in
> > a lab-environment. My question was actually about possible cases of
> > animal addiction in non-lab environment, i.e. in their natural
> > habitat. Do you know of any?
> >
Joe:
> Some birds get seasonally drunk eating fermented berries.
The entire season? Doesn't it then make them awfully vulnerable to predation?
Natural selection ought to favor birds who aren't drunk an entire season.
I am well aware also that drugs (including alcohol) are not uncommon for
usage in the animal kingdom. I cannot imagine, really, that natural selection
would allow for animal `druggies' to emerge and maintain in the extremely
competitive and demanding natural world.
Philip.
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