Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id TAA10392 (8.6.9/5.3[ref pg@gmsl.co.uk] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk); Thu, 16 Aug 2001 19:08:15 +0100 Message-ID: <001101c12684$242493c0$a207bed4@default> From: "Kenneth Van Oost" <Kenneth.Van.Oost@village.uunet.be> To: "memetics" <memetics@mmu.ac.uk> Subject: Re: Logic Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 20:48:36 +0200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
> From: Dace <edace@earthlink.net>
>
> The meme for genetic determinism is nested
> > within the meme for deterministic thinking in general, which is nested
> > within the meme for nature-as-machine, which is nested within the meme
for
> > anthropomorphosis. That is, we tend to project ourselves onto nature.
In
> > modern times, this manifests in a projection of human technology onto
> > nature. The idea that nature has a machine-like predictability has
served
> > to resurrect the ancient meme of "fate," which has since manifested in
> terms
> > of genetics.
>
> << Very good point !!
> Mine exactly and the one which why I still doubt the absoluteness of
> genetic determinism according to the heritable aspect of the concept.
> It could be all a case of memetic- like nesting.
> Wade, I think, wrote once, Darwin dangerous idea would be just that
> we ought to think that his idea is the right way to follow.
> But Darwin 's idea came from out a human perspective ( descriptive) and
> perhaps this not what Nature intented.
>
> > I've never tried to apply the morphic model to memes before. This
effort
> is
> > certainly better than the post I fired off last night under the heading
> > "morphic memes." Definitely a work in progress.
>
> << My first steps in memetics were inspired by the notion of the morphic
> model. In a sense you can 1_ switch memes for morphic fields and vice
> versa and 2_ see memes as the neurological outcome of the working of
> morphic fields.
>
> Best,
>
> Kenneth
>
> ( I am, because we are) back to we started from
>
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