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> Hi Chris,
> You wrote,
> > Sorry, I'm the culprit for introducing that into the discussion.
> > How would this 100th monkey story differ from the blue tits and milk
> bottle
> > thingy? These notions becoming a part of the collective consciousness,
> wrong > as they may be, are fair game in this forum. Frans de Waal talks
> about the
> > 100th monkey stuff in his book _The Ape and the Sushi Master_ (2001,
Basic
> > Books, New York). What is it about these ideas that is so appealing?
>
> << How can you be so sure that those stories are wrong !?
> You have no prove that a mecanism drives the birds and the monkeys
> or not !
> It is still a mystery, all the reasoning is highly hypothetical.
> It is IMO not a " prove" that a nearby scientific application says it has
> to be wrong because its prove shows it that way, that it is wrong !! The
> prove it will have is just circumstancial.
> It must be proven, either way !!
>
> And maybe further investigation into what makes those ideas so appea-
> ling will turn out to be the tenet of what memetics is all about !!
>
> Regards,
>
> Kenneth
>
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