Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id HAA13089 (8.6.9/5.3[ref pg@gmsl.co.uk] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk); Fri, 10 Aug 2001 07:52:50 +0100 X-Originating-IP: [209.240.222.130] From: "Scott Chase" <ecphoric@hotmail.com> To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk Subject: Re: Logic Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 02:50:07 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: <F823MI9VsZDgw0V8Lr200003a59@hotmail.com> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Aug 2001 06:50:07.0299 (UTC) FILETIME=[B1005930:01C12168] Sender: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
>From: "Dace" <edace@earthlink.net>
>Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
>To: <memetics@mmu.ac.uk>
>Subject: Re: Logic
>Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 22:54:18 -0700
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>
>Kenneth,
>
> > > Memes are indeed, of course associated with thought and IMO we
> > > have to stop applying ' genetic- like ' explanations to describe the
> > > memes themselves and the processes where they are involved in.
>
>When he first coined the term, Dawkins located "memes" in the brain. If
>the
>brain is reducible to genes, then memes are functions of genes. But if the
>brain is informed by past, similar brains, then memes are patterns of
>neurotransmission that follow habitually from previous, similar patterns.
>
>
Well, if there is a social heredity or means of cultural transmission,
whether Dawkinsian memes or the noogenetic/noetic patterns of Julian Huxley
(somewhat following in the footsteps of Teilhard), the brain could be
informed by past "similar" brains without the spooky MR principle. This
means of social heredity need not be tightly leashed by genes either.
Tradition need not resonate, whatever that means.
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