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Hi Chris and all,
Btw I'm interested in your other info on Christianity - I'd certainly
never heard the Qumran one before (and I plan to read around it a bit -
all that fascinates me - like the similarities between Gilgamesh and the
Old Testament for example).
This is a very simplistic version of the facts,
The story begins with a controverse_ place the constellation Orion above
the great pyramids of Egypt and you will get a perfect match.
The pyramids were built in a such a way that they represent Orion flat out
upon the ground. That is, what is represented is an image of what the
sky looked like about 10.000 or 15.000 years ago.
The theory goes that the pyramids were not only used as tombs but were
in fact temples for an ancient belief.
Isis, goddess of fertility, moongoddess, goddess of the Nile, was worshiped
because she made the yearly floods of the Nile possible.
The floods begin as the first star of Orion reaches just above the horizon.
At the top the three stars of the constellation are above the horizon with
the star Sirirus as their longlife compagnian.
Much about how Isis and her husband and brother Osiris were worshiped
is not know and out of what the religion consisted is up to today a kind
of mistery.
But the pre- assumption is that both Isis and Osiris were honoured like
they were a reincarnated godlike couple.
The striking parallels with Christianity are the following. The best guide-
line is the book of Matthew, in which the life and works of Josef and
Mary are written down, also the escape to Egypt, the Three wise man,etc.
The claim is that Christianity is in fact a kind of continuation of what
in Egypt was their religion. Christianity would be in fact a Mystical
Adaptation of an old story.
You don 't have to very clever to see that in fact the Three wise man,
were chasing the star Sirirus across its journey thru ' the sky on their
quest to find Jesus.
Josef and Mary are in fact Osiris and Isis, Jesus is Horus, the son of
Isis and Osiris. The escape to Egypt is in fact a confirmation of the
bound between Christianity and Egypt.
Just like it is written down in the Bible, the old Egyptian people were
confronted with their god on a day of Judgement, where Osiris was
dressed up in a golden garment,the resemblance with what is know
from Christianity ( God sits in a dazzling light) is striking.
Horus, the son, was born after Osiris died, out of sperm where with
Isis inpregnated herself, the resemblance of the immaculation of Mary
is again striking.
The story continues with the claim that the old Egyptian religion went
underground after a few decades of poor harvests, and after and of
course the power of the farao's declined.
But is a sense it stayed on, as a gnostic movement.
Remerber, the first Christians we know of lived their lives in the dark,
in caves and holes far away from the common life, in order to profess
their religion.
In a way, the Death-Sea-Roles are their legacy, and in a sense the
controverse about how the investigation is done into the Roles would be
a conspiracy in order to eliminate the old Egyptian influence out of
Christianity.
But the mainstream of the faith, the old Egyptian story, lived on thru '
the centuries like a popular belief. This version was in direct competition
with what was than know as " Christianity ".
The battle between the " die hards " ( the gnostic movement, but in a
sense the popular version of the facts) was settled once and for all by
Emperor Augustinius, I belief, who choose the side of the new version.
Christianity as we know it was a fact.
But the gnostic movement lived on. Even after high ranked members
were burned alive ( Bruno was one) the version stayed on.
This version went on to become the backbone of what is know now
as the Cathars and Rosicruanism.
But the real discovery would be that in fact the old Egyptian belief
was in a sense based upon a notion of freemasonry.
Look at old pictures of the founders of the USA, ( Washington and
Jefferson) , upon their clothing freemasonry symbols are attached.
Still, each time a new president is sworn in, he does something with
his hand, a symbol of freemasonry, Napoleon did it too.
Symbols of the ancient belief are still around today, look at a 5 dollar
note, I belief, look at the backside. A picture of a eye placed inside
a triangle is visible, and the whole thing represents a ' breech- block '
of a pyramid.
Hope this helps Chris !!
In a memetic sense, quit a story !!
Best regards,
Kenneth
( I am, because we are) guess !
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