Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id UAA17235 (8.6.9/5.3[ref pg@gmsl.co.uk] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk); Mon, 25 Jun 2001 20:07:24 +0100 Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 19:44:09 +0100 To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk Subject: Re: The Guardian on Information Message-ID: <20010625194409.A673@ii01.org> References: <200106221813.TAA10938@alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk> <fc.005b8ff100d839ce3b9aca007d56e06e.d83a47@amazon.shu.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.15i In-Reply-To: <fc.005b8ff100d839ce3b9aca007d56e06e.d83a47@amazon.shu.ac.uk>; from I.Price@shu.ac.uk on Mon, Jun 25, 2001 at 09:13:34AM +0100 From: Robin Faichney <robin@ii01.org> X-RBL-Warning: (orbs.dorkslayers.com) 195.8.69.94 is listed by dorkslayers.com Sender: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
On Mon, Jun 25, 2001 at 09:13:34AM +0100, Ilfryn PRICE(SED) wrote:
>
> Robin writes
>
> <Richard Feynman once said nobody can understand quantum mechanics,
> but Murray Gell-Mann, also a Nobel prize winner, disagrees. He
> is sure we can make sense of it, but only if we work information
> theory into the mix.
>
> How is this relevant here? Memes and genes are both units of information,
> and the relationships between matter, energy and information are highly
> relevant to both genetics and memetics.>
>
> Gell-Mann made the point back in 1996 in an address to the National Defence University:
>
> "In the case of societal evolution, the schemata consist of laws, customs, myths, traditions, and
> so forth. The pieces of such a schema are often called "memes," (original quotation marks)"
>
> http://www.dodccrp.org/comch01.html
>
> If Price
I'm sorry, If, my brain does often shut down for a while at this time of
day so maybe that's why, but I think I may be missing your point, here.
How do you see the relationship between Gell-Mann's two statements?
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