Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id LAA15266 (8.6.9/5.3[ref pg@gmsl.co.uk] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk); Mon, 14 May 2001 11:36:13 +0100 Message-ID: <2D1C159B783DD211808A006008062D3101745E88@inchna.stir.ac.uk> From: Vincent Campbell <v.p.campbell@stir.ac.uk> To: "'memetics@mmu.ac.uk'" <memetics@mmu.ac.uk> Subject: RE: football and stuff (was RE: memetics of the heroine) Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 11:32:44 +0100 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
Ah yeah, Jim McMahon that's right. I do vaguely remember Bosworth, but he
had his work cut out palying for the Seahawks...
Those that can play pro football and baseball really are extraordinary
athletes. I believe Ian Botham (English cricket hero) also played football
(that's the proper version I mean) for a lower division club, but I can't
really conceive of someone playing both football and cricket at the highest
level in today's game.
Vincent
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> From: Scott Chase
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> Sent: Friday, May 11, 2001 10:50 pm
> To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
> Subject: football and stuff (was RE: memetics of the heroine)
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> >From: Vincent Campbell <v.p.campbell@stir.ac.uk>
> >Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
> >To: "'memetics@mmu.ac.uk'" <memetics@mmu.ac.uk>
> >Subject: RE: memetics of the heroine
> >Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 09:59:20 +0100
> >
> > <I too suffer from chronic unread book syndrome. I saw a coffee
> mug
> >recently
> > > which said something like "so many books, so little time". I'm
> planning
> >on
> > >
> > > building a machine which stops time, so that I can catch up on my
> >reading
> > > and then be smart. One of these days I want to compare Marlowe and
> >Goethe
> > > wrt the Faust theme.>
> > >
> > Coincidentally, this was one of the themes of a literature course
> I
> >took. We studied Marlowe's Faust, Goethe's Faust, and also Bulgalov's
> 'The
> >Master & Margerita', and Vaclev Havel's 'Temptation' (you know the Czech
> >president playwright) also explicitly reworking Faust. I bought the
> first
> >two and the last one but as to reading.... Oh, and the following year we
> >also studied Klaus Mann's 'Mephisto', the book about an actor in Nazi
> >Germany playing in Faust. Again book bought, not read- I could say in my
> >defence that we were shown the award film version (we were film students
> >also, so our lit lecturers tried to make links where possible), however,
> in
> >this case I fell asleep during the screening...
> >
> > I think it was the pace of studying that I had trouble with. At A
> >level (16-18 in school for our non-Brit colleagues), you studied one book
>
> >or
> >play for weeks, even months at a time, and then suddenly your studying
> one
> >book or more, per week. The Faust stuff, for example was all of those
> >texts
> >in one week (or maybe two I forget exactly).
> >
> > > <The other wrestling organization WCW had a character Sting who
> >appeared
> > > to
> > > have derive his recent persona via hybridization of Brandon Lee's "The
> > > Crow"
> > > and Jim Carrey's "The Mask" (Loki the Trickster himself?). Sting's
> >earlier
> > >
> > > incarnation was more like mid 80's football star Brian ("the Boz")
> > > Bosworth,
> > > if one of my friends is correct.>
> > >
> > That rings bells- did he play for the Chicago Bears alongside the
> >Fridge?
> >
> No, you're probably thinking of Jim McMahon (no relation to Vince that I
> know of). Jim McMahon was the NFL's bad boy for a while, wearing
> sunglasses
> and a headband. IIRC the reason he liked wearing sunglasses was beause he
> had stuck a fork in his eye by accident when he was a kid.
>
> "The Boz" played for the Seattle Seahawks. He had somewhat of a film
> career,
> playing in a movie called "Stone Cold". Maybe that's where "Stone Cold
> Steve
> Austin" got his monicker from... "The Boz" was a commentator for the now
> defunct XFL. So was Jesse Ventura (a wrestler turned governor). I'm not
> exactly playing up the best parts of Americana here...no wonder the rest
> of
> the world turns a confused glance our way.
>
> There's another football player named Howie Long who used to play for the
> Oakland Raiders. He was probably born with a "flat-top" haircut. I guess
> that's one of them late 80's/early 90's trends. Memetics of the hero?
>
> Another Raider you don't hear so much about is Bo Jackson. He did a major
> stint on commercials...Bo knows... Bo was one of the fastest running backs
>
> I've ever seen. He also played baseball. Deon Sanders played baseball and
> football too, which leads us to something "memetic" as Deon's old collecge
>
> team (the Florida State Seminoles") was infamous for the tomahawk chop and
>
> war chant which was also adopted by thw "Atlanta Braves" and "Kansas City
> Chiefs". Maybe these team names reflect badly on Americana too, as the
> adoption of stereotypes of Native Americans isn't going over as well as it
>
> used to. There's some controversy over this, especially with teams such as
>
> the "Washington Redskins" which have names that are quite insulting when
> you
> think about it.
>
>
>
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