Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id KAA24073 (8.6.9/5.3[ref pg@gmsl.co.uk] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk); Fri, 4 May 2001 10:34:16 +0100 Date: Fri, 4 May 2001 10:30:12 +0100 To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk Subject: Re: Information Message-ID: <20010504103012.B1115@ii01.org> References: <20010503195614.AAA15016@camailp.harvard.edu@[128.103.125.215]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.15i In-Reply-To: <20010503195614.AAA15016@camailp.harvard.edu@[128.103.125.215]>; from wade_smith@harvard.edu on Thu, May 03, 2001 at 03:56:02PM -0400 From: Robin Faichney <robin@ii01.org> Sender: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
On Thu, May 03, 2001 at 03:56:02PM -0400, Wade T.Smith wrote:
> On 05/03/01 13:52, Robin Faichney said this-
>
> >> I agree that until the information is _derived_ from whatever system that
> >> process is resident within, it is without value and irrelevant.
> >>
> >> That is far from saying it is not there.
> >
> >Considering the following quote from the same article, do you still
> >insist that intrinsic information (J) is of no significance?
>
> If having no derivation is of no significance, and I think that's fair to
> say, then, yes. Of what significance is something that no-one knows?
Jesus, Wade, did you read the fucking quote? I'm not talking about
something no-one knows, I'm talking about the information that's
intrinsic to every physical system, that Frieden and colleagues have used
*successfully* to derive the laws of physics. Will you get a fucking
clue or do I have to killfile you?
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