Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id TAA02020 (8.6.9/5.3[ref pg@gmsl.co.uk] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk); Wed, 25 Apr 2001 19:22:15 +0100 Message-ID: <20010425181825.86983.qmail@web10106.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 11:18:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Trupeljak Ozren <ozren_trupeljak@yahoo.com> Subject: RE: The Status of Memetics as a Science To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk In-Reply-To: <2D1C159B783DD211808A006008062D3101745DF3@inchna.stir.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
--- Vincent Campbell <v.p.campbell@stir.ac.uk> wrote:
> <Without religion you wouldn't have Bach's music.>
>
> I don't think Bach makes up for the Inquisition.
>
> Vincent
No one expects the Spanish Inquisition! :)
Seriously, though, if you believe that you can quantify the suffering,
and thus also quantify the feeling of pleasure, Bach wins clearly.
Inquisition period was rather specific, relatively short lived, and not
many people (in absolute numbers) had the opportunity to experience
her. Bach's music is going to stay with us (arguably) as long as we as
a species can enjoy the music, and that has already been longer then
the period of mass atrocities done in the name of Inquisition. Future
millions will also enjoy Bach.
the idea behind, though, that religious and political authorities
caused far more suffering to untold millions then their support of arts
and sciences could ever remedy, is a valid one. I am at loss how to
compare the two, though...
All of it lead directly to more diversity, and thus, is good by the
book of evolutionary ethics. (the unwritten one that I subscribe to ;)
>
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Carl von Clausewitz
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