Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id IAA29836 (8.6.9/5.3[ref pg@gmsl.co.uk] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk); Wed, 25 Apr 2001 08:47:27 +0100 Message-ID: <20010425074403.97132.qmail@web10108.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 00:44:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Trupeljak Ozren <ozren_trupeljak@yahoo.com> Subject: RE: Is Suicide Contagious? A Case Study in Applied Memetics To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk In-Reply-To: <2D1C159B783DD211808A006008062D3101745DDB@inchna.stir.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
Really? I have not known that it was so controversial...why? Is it only
because of the outregous claims they make in their advertisements? Are
there *any* people who had positive experience with it all? What about
the clinical establishment?
--- Vincent Campbell <v.p.campbell@stir.ac.uk> wrote:
> Oooh!!!! Touchy subject NLP (mainly 'coz it's all pants, but saying
> so
> winds some people up no end).
>
> Vincent
>
> > ----------
> > From: Trupeljak Ozren
> > Reply To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
> > Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2001 8:11 pm
> > To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
> > Subject: Re: Is Suicide Contagious? A Case Study in Applied
> Memetics
> >
> >
> > --- "Wade T.Smith" <wade_smith@harvard.edu> wrote:
> > > Hi Robin Faichney -
> > >
> > > >Are you trying to say that you admit it happens but you don't
> > > believe
> > > >in it?
> > >
> > > No, I'm saying, as I say about gods, some people believe in 'em,
> > > follow
> > > 'em, pray to 'em, but never have they shown 'em to anyone else.
> > >
> > > You can call things whatever you want, but, proofs require proof,
> not
> > >
> > > simply nomenclature.
> > >
> > > Hypnosis as a behavior is not contestable. It is cultural. But as
> a
> > > scientific method with a verified mechanism it certainly is.
> > >
> > > - Wade
> >
> > If you want a scientific take on the hypnosis , try cheking out
> > "Neuro-linguistic programming". That is as close to the science of
> how
> > to hypnothise someone, anyone, as I have been able to find. And
> they
> > actually do quite a bit of research on lower level (brain
> structures,
> > etc..) functioning of their techniques.
> > And your previous assertion that you do not believe in hypnosis
> because
> > you can not be hypnotised reminds me very much of the argument
> about
> > flatness of the earth....since one could not see the curvature
> directly
> > (in the past), there is no curvature.
> >
> >
> > =====
> > There are very few man - and they are exceptions - who are able to
> think
> > and feel beyond the present moment.
> >
> > Carl von Clausewitz
> >
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Carl von Clausewitz
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