Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id OAA24910 (8.6.9/5.3[ref pg@gmsl.co.uk] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk); Mon, 23 Apr 2001 14:47:18 +0100 Message-ID: <2D1C159B783DD211808A006008062D3101745DD1@inchna.stir.ac.uk> From: Vincent Campbell <v.p.campbell@stir.ac.uk> To: "'memetics@mmu.ac.uk'" <memetics@mmu.ac.uk> Subject: RE: memes and sexuality Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 14:44:00 +0100 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
I think I'd rather have put it in terms of a propensity for general tool use
is genetic, rather than the psych. stuff. I'm not sure I buy the extent of
the phallic symbol thing in relation to guns- I'd be stupid to deny that
it's there, but it seems to be more important in things like totem poles, or
maypoles, than in guns where the utiliy function would seem to over-ride its
sexual symbolism (which perhaps goes along for the ride). Guns are
barrel-shaped for technical reasons, for example, maypoles on the other
hand, and symbolically shaped...
Vincent
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> From: Robin Faichney
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> On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 02:15:08PM +0100, Vincent Campbell wrote:
> > I was making a joke on that bit... but the other part stands though,
> about
> > the genetic determination of gun use. Seems highly unlikely to me.
>
> Anyone who seriously suggested that gun use itself could be genetically
> determined would deserve to be treated as a joke.
>
> A genetically transmitted tendency to be attracted to phallic power
> symbols, though, is another matter, which I think only a rabid
> anti-psychologist or the like could insist should not be taken seriously.
>
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