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>From: Trupeljak Ozren <ozren_trupeljak@yahoo.com>
>Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
>To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
>Subject: Re: Is Suicide Contagious? A Case Study in Applied Memetics
>Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 12:11:18 -0700 (PDT)
>
>
>--- "Wade T.Smith" <wade_smith@harvard.edu> wrote:
> > Hi Robin Faichney -
> >
> > >Are you trying to say that you admit it happens but you don't
> > believe
> > >in it?
> >
> > No, I'm saying, as I say about gods, some people believe in 'em,
> > follow
> > 'em, pray to 'em, but never have they shown 'em to anyone else.
> >
> > You can call things whatever you want, but, proofs require proof, not
> >
> > simply nomenclature.
> >
> > Hypnosis as a behavior is not contestable. It is cultural. But as a
> > scientific method with a verified mechanism it certainly is.
> >
> > - Wade
>
>If you want a scientific take on the hypnosis , try cheking out
>"Neuro-linguistic programming". That is as close to the science of how
>to hypnothise someone, anyone, as I have been able to find. And they
>actually do quite a bit of research on lower level (brain structures,
>etc..) functioning of their techniques.
>And your previous assertion that you do not believe in hypnosis because
>you can not be hypnotised reminds me very much of the argument about
>flatness of the earth....since one could not see the curvature directly
>(in the past), there is no curvature.
>
>
Brodie talks about this "NLP" stuff in his book _Virus of the Mind_. I'm not
up on the field so I pretty much lurk while others hash out the details.
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