Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id UAA22727 (8.6.9/5.3[ref pg@gmsl.co.uk] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk); Sun, 22 Apr 2001 20:58:36 +0100 Subject: Re: Darwinizing Culture: The Status of Memetics as a Science Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 15:54:47 -0400 x-sender: wsmith1@camail2.harvard.edu x-mailer: Claris Emailer 2.0v3, Claritas Est Veritas From: "Wade T.Smith" <wade_smith@harvard.edu> To: "Memetics Discussion List" <memetics@mmu.ac.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Message-ID: <20010422195447.AAA18772@camailp.harvard.edu@[205.240.180.127]> Sender: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
Hi Trupeljak Ozren -
>In that sense, I would argue that both science and religion are
>strustures whose primary function lies in defining our perceptions of
>the Universe;
_Our_ perceptions of the universe mean very little to science.
But our gathered facts do.
>Aggregations of facts are usualy called knowledges.
and
>science is a set of rules for finding the truth
>about the universe
Truths about the universe are facts.
Science is the desire to know these truths. The scientific method is one
way of delivering sets of these to the seeker.
Religions have no such need to know the universe. They only seek to
define the ways of the people within their boundaries.
>Most of the Christians living around me would vehemently disagree
>about not being able to actually perceive God(s). Who am I to claim
>knowledge of what they perceive?
Ask them to prove it.
Every fact is backed up by the entire universe. There is nothing about
the godless universe that you cannot show them. They have only anecdotes,
beliefs, and other fictions.
In other words, they have perceptions without evidence.
Science will not move without evidence for perception.
- Wade
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