Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id RAA20275 (8.6.9/5.3[ref pg@gmsl.co.uk] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk); Sat, 21 Apr 2001 17:33:20 +0100 Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 16:20:14 +0100 To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk Subject: Re: Is Suicide Contagious? A Case Study in Applied Memetics Message-ID: <20010421162014.A1581@ii01.org> References: <20010420201552.AAA8642@camailp.harvard.edu@[128.103.125.215]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.15i In-Reply-To: <20010420201552.AAA8642@camailp.harvard.edu@[128.103.125.215]>; from wade_smith@harvard.edu on Fri, Apr 20, 2001 at 04:15:31PM -0400 From: Robin Faichney <robin@ii01.org> Sender: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
On Fri, Apr 20, 2001 at 04:15:31PM -0400, Wade T.Smith wrote:
> On 04/20/01 15:48, Robin Faichney said this-
>
> >But is anyone really suggesting that genuinely
> >non-suicidal people might be influenced to commit suicide?
>
> More to my original ethical consternation about these experiments, and
> JR's original wording, how else can you offer proof of influence except
> that you've managed to make someone kill themselves?
I don't know of any such experiments.
> And how can you prove that unless you have people who have no inclination
> to do anything like that in the first place?
I'm not looking for proof. I'll adopt any hypothesis that seems more
likely than the alternative.
> I, personally, don't 'believe' in hypnosis because I am not hypnotizable-
> although I totally agree that some people are highly suggestible and
> respond as if hypnotizing were a real phenomenon. But, yes, "They Call It
> Hypnosis".
>
> Well, they call it media influence, too.
Are you trying to say that you admit it happens but you don't believe
in it?
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