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Hi, Robin, if that question is for me, I don't have think of memetics as a
science (not that it might not be approached as such by others), and have
faith in neither science nor memetics, if I understand your use of the term
'faith' correctly. Do science and memetics seem useful? Yes, and that is
pretty much good enough for me. But the usefulness is something that proves
itself continuously. It does establish some expectation in my mind about the
likelihood of its continued usefulness, but I don't think of this
expectation as 'faith' in any sense of the word being used here.
- Lawrence
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Subject: Re: The Status of Memetics as a Science
On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 04:54:41PM -0700, J. R. Molloy wrote:
> From: "Lawrence DeBivort" <debivort@umd5.umd.edu>
> > I find little difficulty in distinguishing religion from memetics.
Memetics
> > models and tracks the spread of ideas and beliefs. Religion is composed
of
> > beliefs (whether they are 'correct' or not). At a mimimum, then,
memetics is
> > meta to religion.
>
> In further support of your excellent comments, I'd add that memetics is to
> religion as science is to faith.
How does faith in memetics as a science fit in there?
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