Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id OAA14005 (8.6.9/5.3[ref pg@gmsl.co.uk] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk); Thu, 19 Apr 2001 14:17:04 +0100 Message-ID: <2D1C159B783DD211808A006008062D3101745DBD@inchna.stir.ac.uk> From: Vincent Campbell <v.p.campbell@stir.ac.uk> To: "'memetics@mmu.ac.uk'" <memetics@mmu.ac.uk> Subject: RE: Is Suicide Contagious? A Case Study in Applied Memetics Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 14:13:42 +0100 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
Ah yes, of course, but that's not the same as is being implied in contagion
theory (again, not that this is what Paul is necessarily saying). My beef
is in relation to the mediation part of the issue- that mediated suicide
(e.g. press reports, or TV dramatisations) lead to suicides in previously
non-suicidal people. Again, I think this has relatively little to do with
what Paul specifically is arguing, I'm just trying to keep people from
making erroneous jumps of causation.
Vincent
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> From: J. R. Molloy
> Reply To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
> Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 11:41 pm
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> From: "Vincent Campbell" <v.p.campbell@stir.ac.uk>
> > Think
> > about it anecdotally- when was the last time you witnessed a suicide (or
> > murder) on TV and felt compelled to attempt it yourself?
>
> I know several people who have told me that hearing about someone's
> suicide
> made them feel depressed. And I've felt very slightly suicidal myself upon
> hearing of the suicide of someone that I liked. (Sasha Chislenko
> <http://www.lucifer.com/~sasha/home.html> as just one example.)
>
> --J. R.
>
> Useless hypotheses:
> consciousness, phlogiston, philosophy, vitalism, mind, free will, qualia,
> analog computing, cultural relativism
>
> Everything that can happen has already happened, not just once,
> but an infinite number of times, and will continue to do so forever.
> (Everything that can happen = more than anyone can imagine.)
>
> http://www.shasta.com/jr
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/virtropy
>
>
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