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Hi. Been quiet a while, lurking. Been thinking a lot about the nature of the 
lexicon as found in most languages. In most lexicons, there is a large body 
of forms with a complex history in terms of both structure and meaning. Not 
that there aren't also simplex forms, but in many languages these are a small 
minority of the total. These would include ideophones and expressives.
Ideophones and expressives are not part of the lexicon proper as it is 
usually understood by linguists. Forms are in constant flux, templatically 
created and apparently as easily destroyed. There is something to be said for 
parallelism with the virtual particles which form and fall back to the vacuum.
Ideophones are also extremely symmetrically organized as to sound structure 
and parallel semantics. When these forms are reanalyzed into normal 
vocabulary, as it appears happens at certain points in the linguistic 
typological cycle, this symmetrical organization is lost. In fact, one might 
see here a parallel to symmetry breaking in particle systems.
What is most interesting about all this is that multiple threads point in the 
direction of the creation of a derivational history behind the staying power 
of lexical items, especially one where inter-element boundaries are obscured. 
One wonders whether similar derivational history is behind the stability of 
particles in physics. Without such derivation, and the removal of the 
structures which allowed the edifices to be erected in the first place, it is 
too easy to simply reverse the process, and you get an equilibrium between 
creation and destruction at a very low level.
So here is my question to the list membership:  does such a derived system 
then have a cognitive "life" of its own? Is reification a form of "memory"?- 
a history of what went before, allowing intergenerational transfer not only 
of basic information, but also of tried and true strategies, attitudes, etc.  
I might be willing to posit that languages based on universals and 
symmetrical patterning lack such history, and the living is day to day, 
generation to generation. Do memeticists have any feelings about all this? I 
understand that my particular interests are alien to most of you here, as is 
linguistics proper (which shouldn't be). Anyway, hope to here some real 
criticism here, not dead air.
Best,
Jess Tauber
zylogy@aol.com
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