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From: gvidan@EUnet.yu
To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2001 1:41 AM
Subject: Re: about omniscience through memetics
I supposed that there must be selection pressure with regard to memes as there is a hierarchy in them. The existence of hierarchy should enable an appropriate setting for evolution. Besides, whenever you have hierarchy you have some sort of choice as well.
I could be wrong, of course.
About God: as God is above this hierarchy, and omniscient, and an absolute free agent, he must be your best shot at trying to eliminate the meme hypothesis.
<< You could of course argue about this one, but another way in seeing
this would be to confine memes at their proper level.
You exclude hierarchy this way, at least at the basic level of each meme-
complex.
Each meme has its place on its proper level of existence and in some sense
they can 't get to another level. Memes which imply social structures
can't get to the higher Intellectual level. Memes are seen here as actually
structures. They only can get to a higher level of existence in another, than
verbal form. In this way, you exclude also choise as a Intellectual tool, memes
which imply organic knowledge cannot be choisen for because in a pure
Intellectual way you can 't grasp all what the meme stands for.
The space where the meme is, is far to unlimited to grasp it intellectualy.
Just a thought, though !!
I am wandering about, I believe....
Best,
Kenneth
( I am, because we are) under no selction pressure whatsoever
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