Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id UAA26235 (8.6.9/5.3[ref pg@gmsl.co.uk] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk); Thu, 12 Apr 2001 20:04:27 +0100 Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 19:34:29 +0100 To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk Subject: Re: Determinism Message-ID: <20010412193429.A1393@reborntechnology.co.uk> References: <F134mz6UuEhjJ8uT6Ss000063dc@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.15i In-Reply-To: <F134mz6UuEhjJ8uT6Ss000063dc@hotmail.com>; from ecphoric@hotmail.com on Thu, Apr 12, 2001 at 12:23:48PM -0400 From: Robin Faichney <robin@reborntechnology.co.uk> Sender: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
On Thu, Apr 12, 2001 at 12:23:48PM -0400, Scott Chase wrote:
> >
> Isn't the overall caual flow from the bottom up and wouldn't "top"
> components decompose to lesser levels, though not amenable to limited
> methods of investigation?
If higher level entities are lower level ones, aggregated, then there can
be no causal flow top-down *or* bottom-up. Causation has an ineliminable
element of time, and in this model, time is horizontal while hierarchy
is vertical, restricting causation to the horizontal dimension. This is
very simple, and, I think, absolutely unanswerable.
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