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From: "Chris Taylor" <Christopher.Taylor@man.ac.uk>
To: <memetics@mmu.ac.uk>
Sent: Friday, April 06, 2001 10:58 AM
Subject: Re: Determinism
> OK. Firstly, scientific theories are provisional until death. Even
> 'laws' in physics are still provisional, they are just assumed to be
> closer to perfect predictive power; they may not even represent reality
> as such, just predict it. No-one should dare to claim that they *truly*
> know reality.
Now you speak of knowledge, not truth. Truth, after all, may be unknown. But
never provisional.
>It's a bit like the two versions of the terminology in
> stats - the 'real' (never truly known) and the 'sample'.
>
> Secondly, I've revised my view of the necessary ingredients for a mind,
> and Robin beat me to it; some sort of input is necessary (after all I'd
> be daft to say otherwise given that I view a mind as more or less
> nothing but memes), but that's all (besides the brain). It would be
> interesting to see what you get with no input though (ever pointed a
> video camera at its own monitor?); the awful abuse cases that came close
> to this are interesting, but messy.
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Chris Taylor (chris@bioinf.man.ac.uk)
> http://bioinf.man.ac.uk/ »people»chris
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