Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id MAA04211 (8.6.9/5.3[ref pg@gmsl.co.uk] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk); Thu, 5 Apr 2001 12:28:45 +0100 Message-ID: <2D1C159B783DD211808A006008062D3101745D69@inchna.stir.ac.uk> From: Vincent Campbell <v.p.campbell@stir.ac.uk> To: "'memetics@mmu.ac.uk'" <memetics@mmu.ac.uk> Subject: RE: Determinism Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 12:25:10 +0100 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
<As for proof - push your coffee cup to the edge of the table, watch
it
> fall. Cause, effect. I can think of more if you want...>
>
Sorry, I know you make an explicit exception for quantum stuff, but
isn't there a quantum effect (quantum tunnelling perhaps?), that says that
it's possible for the cup to 'fall' back up from the floor, reconstruct
itself and the coffee to return to its position. It's improbability is such
that you'd have to wait far longer than the age of the current universe to
actually see this happen, but it could happen in principle. Aren't you
therefore here talking about the illusion of time's "arrow" (I believe
that's the common phrase)?
Vincent
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