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Hi, Vincent. The idea, if I understand it correctly, is that a person has a
threshold of conscious perception that depends on a signal strength greater
than their threshold of unconscious perception. A person can be affected by
a signal strong enough to meet their unconscious threshold but too weak to
meet their conscious threshold. A signal too weak to meet either would have
no effect on the person.
One could easily imagine a situation in which a subliminal signal that is
broadcast is picked up consciously by some, unconsciously by some, and not
at all by others; the first group simply is more perceptive, attentive, or
alert to weak signals than the others. So a subliminal signal might be
'caught' consciously by some, affect some unconsciously, and be entirely
missed by others.
- Lawrence
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From: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk [mailto:fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk]On Behalf
Of Vincent Campbell
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Subject: RE: taboos
Again, urban myth in the sense that it works. In Bush's case, not least in
the sense that people saw it- in other words it wasn't subliminal enough!
But that's why it's a silly idea in the first place because it works on the
basis that the less you are aware of the image/message being sent, the more
powerful its effects on you. The logical endpoint here is by not showing
anything at all you'll have complete control over people.
Vincent
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> > Subliminal advertising is an urban myth.
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> Alas, it is not an urban myth. It was actively used for TV at least once
> by
> the Bush campaign in 2000.
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