Re: The Demise of a Meme

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    Hi Vincent,

    You wrote:
    To me to be without dis-satisfaction is to not be human, and indeed is
    impossible, unless one choose to ignore social reality, which to my mind is
    the real goal of most meditative pratices- there's a good reason why monks,
    priests and nuns of all religions spend at least part of their time away
    from everyone else... so it's easier to forget that the world and it's
    problems.

    Enlightenment to me means trying to find effective ways of sovling those
    problems, not internalising them to the point where you don't care anymore,
    or can delude yourself that they don't exist (or that it's not your
    problem). Enlightenment in this sense is normally an unsatisfactory
    struggle throughout one's entire life as we reach realise our limitations
    and inadequacies, but the struggle is what it's all about, and sometimes,
    just on occasion through our collective efforts we achieve a small bit of
    progress.

    Vincent

    Is "enlightenment" the right word for this lifetime pursuit?

    Enlightenment a word that should evoke the Eureka response.

    There is nothing "Eureka" about the ills that trouble this
    planet. Starting the list with "global warming" and ending
    it with "mad cow disease," it is all fairly common knowledge.

    What to do about these problems? give donations, join
    organizations, petition govt officials, etc.

    Enlightenment??? Not sure where that concept applies.

    Len Jayson

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