Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id CAA04862 (8.6.9/5.3[ref pg@gmsl.co.uk] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk); Fri, 30 Mar 2001 02:53:50 +0100 From: <joedees@bellsouth.net> To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 19:56:07 -0600 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Internal vs. External World Message-ID: <3AC39357.21890.6F563C@localhost> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c) Sender: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
Robin Faichney stated thusly:
>
<Of course my practices (not beliefs) are consequential. But
we
were
> talking about revelations, not consequences. My point was that
there's
> a clear division of labour: science investigates the external world,
> religion investigates the internal world. A religion that claims to
> offer revelations about the material world is as far off-track as
those
> people who still believe in cold fusion. The fact that there may be
> consequences in either direction is irrelevant.>
>
In fact, phenomenology practices the phenomenological reduction,
or epoche' not only towards the 'external' world, but to all
phenomena which appear to the observing consciousness, whether
their source be in the world generally (distal) via perception, in
others specifically (social) via communication, in the body
(somatic) via proprioception, or in one's own stream of
consciousness via introspection. Martin Heidegger, the preeminent
student of phenomenology's inceptor Edmund Husserl,
distingushed these realms as follows; the umwelt (the there-world),
the mitwelt (the with-world), the korperwelt (the body-world) and the
eigenwelt (the self-world). Philosophy has had a millenia-old
tradition of investigating the internal world with ever-increasing rigor.
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