Received: by alpheratz.cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk id LAA28198 (8.6.9/5.3[ref pg@gmsl.co.uk] for cpm.aca.mmu.ac.uk from fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk); Sun, 25 Mar 2001 11:24:51 +0100 Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2001 10:59:07 +0100 To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk Subject: Re: The Demise of a Meme Message-ID: <20010325105907.A1193@reborntechnology.co.uk> References: <3ABB4CD5.14022.8C6349@localhost>; <20010324150025.C1030@reborntechnology.co.uk> <3ABCC12D.24455.DE913@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.15i In-Reply-To: <3ABCC12D.24455.DE913@localhost>; from joedees@bellsouth.net on Sat, Mar 24, 2001 at 03:45:49PM -0600 From: Robin Faichney <robin@reborntechnology.co.uk> Sender: fmb-majordomo@mmu.ac.uk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
On Sat, Mar 24, 2001 at 03:45:49PM -0600, joedees@bellsouth.net wrote:
> On 24 Mar 2001, at 15:00, Robin Faichney wrote:
>
> > Bringing it all back home, I'd like to make the following suggestion:
> > there are just two major factors (as well as many minor ones) that
> > explain the success of religious memeplexes in general: social
> > control/conformism (that's one), and the induction of altered states
> > of consciousness.
> >
> > Personally, I think of the former as bad and the latter as good
> >
> We are in agreement here; it is the difference that the Pagan
> author Starhawk delineated in her book TRUTH OR DARE between
> power-over and power-from-within.
That's funny. I was planning to mention Starhawk to you in support
of my claim to religious tolerance. I once made a special visit to
London just to hear her speak. But I decided to let that thread go --
I felt that your accusation of narrowness, Joe, nicely offset Vincent's
accusation of confusing over-inclusiveness. So never mind... :-)
Re the rest of this post, however, I'll say again it's nice to achieve
such convergence, even though I'm sure we'll see fairly radical divergence
again very soon.
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