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On 22 Mar 2001, at 18:42, Scott Chase wrote:
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> >From: "Wade T.Smith" <wade_smith@harvard.edu>
> >Reply-To: memetics@mmu.ac.uk
> >To: "memetics list" <memetics@mmu.ac.uk>
> >Subject: RE: The Demise of a Meme
> >Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 08:40:48 -0500
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> >On 03/21/01 05:50, Vincent Campbell said this-
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> > >so maybe it's a self
> > >delusion to think of science as non-memetic.
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> >Or as memetic....
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> >Where does delusion stop and the self begin...?
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> It's the illusory "self" which happens to be deluded. An illusion
> succumbs to delusion. Perhaps someone could craft a poem out of that.
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how can something that is not real succumb to anything, much
less the delusion that it is real? Answer: it can't. Thus either the
contention that one has selfhood is no delusion, or there is no self
to be deluded, hence once again, no delusion. The only delusion
possibly going on is the delusion some hold that existent selves
are deluded concerning their own existence (well. I guess they
CAN be so deluded, if their delusion consists in the self-
contradictory belief that their selves do not exist).
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